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Episode 166 – Lake Wobegon Is a Lie – 4/18/2013

This week, Wes, Norm, and Will explore the problems with Minnesota public radio, the rash of new apps from Facebook, and the problem with CISPA. All that, plus reader questions, more on the Oculus Rift, the problem with the Surface Pro, and another edition of fake outtakes.

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28 thoughts on “Episode 166 – Lake Wobegon Is a Lie – 4/18/2013

  1. Aw, wish I saw the tweet about the document before it was too late. I wanted to put “Gary Whitta” in there. Podcast needs more Gary Whitta.

    Edit: I’m assuming it did end up being a listeners choice here. Did it? I don’t want to start listening to it until I’m going to listen to all of it so I’m only assuming it did.

  2. “Is he [Jimmy Fallon] funny yet?”

    “Well, that’s the most interesting part, the BACK of the phone.”

    I think I’m starting to love Wes.

  3. I’m pretty sure they have mentioned in the past that Gary is either on deadline or tied up with work for his new movie. He will be back when he has the time.

    On late night chat, this went viral recently. Justin Timberlake, Jonathan Ross, golf and hard liquor:

    http://youtu.be/AXAnBv9RdY8

    It’s absolutely fantastic. 😀

  4. FYI – The Start button is coming back in Windows 8.1, not the Start menu. So it’ll work like it did in the Developer Preview; it takes you to the Start screen.

  5. I’m with Will–Garrison Keillor is the worst. That show is so self-indulgent, particularly anything featuring Keillor’s singing. Also, Lutheran jokes? What? Who thinks that’s a thing?

  6. Good job Will on revisiting the validity of old perceptions. Fully support that kind of introspection and analysis.

    Going through old Bombcasts and Hot Spot podcasts, it’s fascinating how 4 dudes thoughts on the same very narrow subjects can diametrically change in the course of a few years. Something like how sure they were that a GTA set in an Asian city would be necessarily estranging and boring…and then Sleeping Dogs gets their GOTY top 10 nod.

    This isn’t intended to be a “internet outs a hypocrite” type nonsense or a gotcha, but just a notion applicable both to hotblooded youth, girded by their naive confidence, as well as hoary elders set in their ways, to be cognizant that you probably are or will be wrong in spectacular ways and it’s best to be open to that reality.

  7. wow, i toatlly missed Will’s “i just farted” grin around 39:00 when he was playing with Norm’s bass levels

  8. I think the complaints about Modern are overblown. While my own use of Windows 8 is limited, my father, who is in no way technically savvy, bought his first laptop and it had Windows 8 a few months ago. After about 2 weeks he is totally comfortable using Modern and has not switched exclusively to desktop. I argued that he should have gotten Windows 7 fearing he would be lost. Clearly Modern is not perfect, but it is not a raging tire fire.

  9. I’ve been listening to the podcast for about 18 months and, despite feeling like a douche about typing this, there’s something that’s been driving me crazy which I need to express. I’m amazed that you guys keep making factual mistakes in the tech news portion of the show. Factual mistakes elsewhere are forgiveable because the topics are often more complex or obscure but tech news stories involve no original research – I’m guessing that you guys just skim The Verge and Engadget the same way the audience do. Yet, somehow, in the process of a story getting copied and pasted or read aloud from a tech news site or blog the basic facts get messed up. The usual pattern is that Norm reads out an inaccurate version of the story and then Will pontificates, his rant or indignation based on something that’s incorrect.

    How does this even happen? It makes me wince a little every time I notice it because it makes you guys look like idiots. It’s hard to imagine the process where a story from a tech site seems interesting or relevant for the podcast and yet the basic facts – the things that presumably made it interesting or relevant – get messed up. Thinking about it, I’m not sure I even understand why you guys do tech news stories on the podcast any more because between the off-topic stuff or the kind of stories you post on the site you already have plenty to talk about. If people want cellphone or laptop news there are plenty of sites and podcasts that already do that.

    BTW – I really like the podcast 99.5% of the time, despite the semi asshole-ish nature of the comment above.

  10. When I did BCIS (the AP computer programming class in high school) it was Java that they taught us. That would have been my senior (grade 12) year of high school: 2009.

  11. I’ve been listening to the podcast for about 18 months and, despite feeling like a douche about typing this, there’s something that’s been driving me crazy which I need to express. I’m amazed that you guys keep making factual mistakes in the tech news portion of the show. Factual mistakes elsewhere are forgiveable because the topics are often more complex or obscure but tech news stories involve no original research – I’m guessing that you guys just skim The Verge and Engadget the same way the audience do. Yet, somehow, in the process of a story getting copied and pasted or read aloud from a tech news site or blog the basic facts get messed up. The usual pattern is that Norm reads out an inaccurate version of the story and then Will pontificates, his rant or indignation based on something that’s incorrect.

    How does this even happen? It makes me wince a little every time I notice it because it makes you guys look like idiots. It’s hard to imagine the process where a story from a tech site seems interesting or relevant for the podcast and yet the basic facts – the things that presumably made it interesting or relevant – get messed up. Thinking about it, I’m not sure I even understand why you guys do tech news stories on the podcast any more because between the off-topic stuff or the kind of stories you post on the site you already have plenty to talk about. If people want cellphone or laptop news there are plenty of sites and podcasts that already do that.

    BTW – I really like the podcast 99.5% of the time, despite the semi asshole-ish nature of the comment above.

    I definitely agree with this. I love the podcast but it always feels weird when they state something as fact, are 100% sure, then it turns out to be wrong. I bet they will find their place in time, maybe even drop tech coverage all together.

  12. It’s really difficult for me to decide whether your criticisms are valid or nitpicking when you don’t cite specifics. No one else has complained about factual inaccuracies in this episode. We made one really bad mistake a few months ago, which we corrected on the next show and apologized for.

    In my case it is nitpicking for sure (though still valid) which is why I can’t remember any specifically right now. Mostly details on new products etc.

    Oh btw, I didn’t mean that you guys should stop doing tech coverage but maybe you don’t have to if you’re doing a lot of other cool stuff? Thousands of tech sites out there and all… Me personally would like it if you did MORE tech stuff though. I guess it’s hard to balance with all the different things you’re doing nowadays.

  13. FYI – The Start button is coming back in Windows 8.1, not the Start menu. So it’ll work like it did in the Developer Preview; it takes you to the Start screen.

    They are probably bringing just enough of it back to mess up the third party “get back start menu “programs that everyone is using.

  14. Another interesting fact is that posts by people who don’t use throwaway accounts are usually more constructive.

    Hey podcast guys can you use the name of the thing you are talking about more often during or at the end of the segments? By the time I know if something interests me it’s halfway through the segment and I don’t remember what it’s called. It’s often not in the shownotes and rewinding podcasts can be annoying annoying. Thanks

  15. Gotta show respect for the guy who made a version of Scrumm for the AmigaOS 4 . That’s dedication!

  16. As somebody who likes Prarie Home Companion, I feel like I shouldn’t say this since it undermines one of the fews things Will likes about it. Guy Noir started 7 years after the Dixon Hill episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation.

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