Request for Feedback: Spam, possible solutions, and a bit about you

Created by will on Jan. 15, 2015, 12:02 p.m.
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  • I just posted on one of the other stickys about there being no content in the post...

    That's actually true of all of the stickies. Is it just that Will's posts were all erased, so now we have a weird data vacuum? I don't normally subscribe to broken windows policing, but this is a bad look that I don't think is helping engender a feeling of community on the forums...

  • Another Idea: If we aren't going to get more mods, is it feasible to hide any flagged posts? Or at least any posts that have been flagged by multiple users? Or flagged by Trusted, or premium, users? I flagged like 5 posts 5-6 hours ago and they are all still sitting there. If they get hidden once flagged, until deemed OK, it would cut down on how many views they got, making it potentially not worth the spammers time as much.

    Just a thought.

  • Is it petty to want to cancel my premium membership because of this forum/spam issue? I think i am done but it also seems a pointless gesture since it seems no one in power would even notice.

  • I can't even figure out how to "at" this to Norm or anyone. Again, I am forced to ask, after leaving messages about the major stickies being blank posts with no response... are there mods? is anybody here who looks at anything other than flagged posts? Should we flag these posts so someone pays attention? Should tested just make an official reddit page and we shutter this in deference to that? This whole thing is really disappointing. As someone who really wants to step my maker-game up, I was looking forward to the community that you start to see in the video comments. This wild-west forum situation really sucks.

  • @John Nanci: Just sent this e-mail to Support:

    Please. Someone look at them. There is a wave of spam every 6 hours. There are no responses to requests for assistance or aid in improving these. ALL 4 of the stickied posts have been blank for at least the last week, maybe far longer.

    Some people are members of this site in part because they were looking for a community like that seen in video comments. it can't be found because of the wild-west in the forums. Myself and a couple others are trying to activate the space, but when spam posts stay up for days and days after being flagged, there is a problem. Someone just posted they may cancel their membership the forums leave such a bad taste in their mouth (which I mention because they rightly have no reason to believe anyone from the site will see the post as it isn't spam)

    I'd love to refill out my survey (which was also broken) to say that you need to fix this website. Unstaffed forums, videos and podcasts being sorted only if it if they fall into one of 8 or so programs, 2-3 of which no longer exist, no sorting of premium content at all by topic. Please. We want to use the site more. This is actively making it difficult.

  • @FJVarro Thanks for trying. Any response from them?

  • Just here to say hi. I just got a tested membership as a Christmas gift from my wife :)


    Looking forward to the perks!

  • @John Nanci: Yeah, got a really good response actually. Don't know how much they might want me blabbing on here, but basically they know it's an issue, but they know the site overall is an issue too (links to dead shows, etc). So they need to prioritize so the forums are gonna be back burner for a bit since they aren't super popular, which I totally get. But they do have plans for some significant changes that it seems like are a lot of what people are asking for, so it's looking up.

  • @FJVarro: Which is all very well but TBH not really good enough. If the forum is really that little of a priority and is such an open goal for spammers (the answer to these questions would appear to be yes on both fronts) then they should be taken off line.

  • Just my annual check-in to see if the SPAM has been fixed.

    It's a catch-22 though right?

    The forums aren't active because they are filled with spam.

    But they wont be a priority until they are active.

    But they wont ever be active because they are full of spam....

    I'm a web developer, and it's crazy easy to embed Google's reCaptcha system on forum posting, even on custom forums.
    Or hell, even at the account level so spammers can't register first.

    Maybe empower some community moderators?

    This has been an issue for over three years........ come on guys..... we want to have a community... let us have one.

  • Just my annual check-in to see if the SPAM has been fixed.

    It's a catch-22 though right?

    The forums aren't active because they are filled with spam.

    But they wont be a priority until they are active.

    But they wont ever be active because they are full of spam....

    I'm a web developer, and it's crazy easy to embed Google's reCaptcha system on forum posting, even on custom forums.
    Or hell, even at the account level so spammers can't register first.

    Maybe empower some community moderators?

    This has been an issue for over three years........ come on guys..... we want to have a community... let us have one.

  • Did the Youtube channel get rebranded? My browser history shows "Still Untitled: The Adam Savage Project - Untitled" for the web site. Now I guess it is actually titled. Boavo!

  • I sure wish I could post all the cool projects I made, except this forum still hasn't been fixed.

    See you in a few months.

  • We're continuing to work on the spam problem that's plagued the forums for the last six months. Most of the stuff they've done is on the back end to make it easier for us to deal clean up the spam as well as collect some data about how they're actually working.

    We're getting close to rolling out some client side changes that will let you guys take a more active/immediate role in removing the offending posts from the site. If everything works well, that update should hit in the next few weeks, and I'll have more details for you on that then.

    We've also been considering making some substantial changes to the forums, including limiting the ability of non-premium member accounts to create posts. We just started talking about it, and I wanted to solicit feedback from you guys before we really consider making such a drastic change. If we limit forum posting to paying members only, we would grandfather in non-paying members whose accounts predate the change over so you could continue posting without having to sign up for a membership.

  • Anyone and Everyone, I am willing to do Forum Management, flagging and blocking spam FOR Lifetime Premium. I will do it a couple hours each night EST time from 7-10 PM. Managers or owners of the site, you have my email through your access. Please let me know if anybody is interested to fix this issue for the time being with a member of the Forums WANTING to clean this up so it CAN be used.

  • i just joined and i cant even post or comment lol

    spam can easily get remedied with a simple security capecha, not sure what the big deal is here.

  • @Snyper493: I think enough members are willing to do this. It seems that the spam problem is only getting worse and nothing is done about it. It makes me a bit sad..

  • time to kill the forums with fire , jump past the fallacy of sunk investment , and put it to rest ; implement something a little more modern and keep it for paying members and deliver on some moderation. in over 4 years this single thread had been the only one that has any value in conversation

  • i compare this site to beastsofwar and shutupandsitdown and whilst the content producers are amazing the community is getting stifled and we cant connect and share and talk and make together

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  • The last three messages here; yep al SPAM ... Im renamingthe forums in my browser to Monty Python Song ..
    Lets goto Discuss or Discours and maybe allow only premium members the permissions to post in many forums.

  • @KylevT said:

    Just thought of a simple way to catch most of the spam.A lot of it is dropped into rip and stream, because that's the default forum even create is clicked.

    So creating a Spam Trap forum that's the new default and isn't visible to us should catch most of the bots.

    This is a pretty simple/viable idea to be honest.

    An addition to that would also be to have the user complete a CAPTCHA when creating a new topic (to at least slow down or stop automated bots/scripts) -- this unfortunately won't stop physical human spam posters, but it *should* in theory help quite a bit.

    Also not sure what you do on the backend but you could possibly also set it that if a post gets flagged by at least 2 users, it gets hidden from the topics list and has to be manually reviewed by a moderator as either spam/not spam. Not the most ideal, but also might help.

    /shrug


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