Apple iPhone 5S/5C Discussion Thread

By Norman Chan

New iPhones and what else? Discuss!

Update: The four big pieces of news from this briefing:

  • iOS 7 to be released Sept 18th
  • iWork free on new iOS devices
  • Plastic iPhone 5C replaces iPhone 5 at $100 price point on contract
  • iPhone 5S has 64-bit A7 chip, better camera, fingerprint sensor, on sale Sept 20th

Today, Apple is hosting a media event at its Cuppertino headquarters to likely announce new iPhones for the fall. We're expecting a new flagship iPhone with a fingerprint scanner, a lower-cost plastic iPhone, and word on iOS 7's release. What else could be announced? The briefing starts at 10am PT and we'll be hearing the news when you do. Follow along these great liveblogs, Will's Twitter feed, and post your thoughts in the comments section below.

Tim Cook starts off this briefing the way other Apple events have in the past, recapping success in its events--in this case iTunes Festival--and retail expansion. The spotlight this time is on a new Apple Store in the Stanford Shopping Center in Palo Alto.

Apple will have shipped 700 million iOS devices by October.

Apple's Craig Federighi walks through iOS 7 features. Developers currently have iOS 7 beta 6 (reportedly very stable), and the final is expected to be released to the dev channel after today's event. We'll of course be going through all of iOS 7's new features on video once it's available.

iOS 7 will be released September 18th.

iOS 7 will be compatible with iPhone 4 and newer, iPad 2 and newer, iPad mini, and the 5th generation iPod touch. No split release between iPhones and iPads.

iWork apps: Keynote, Pages, Numbers, iPhoto, and iMovie are now free for new iOS devices.

Apple announces iPhone 5C and iPhone 5S to replace the iPhone 5

iPhone 5C

  • Chassis is made of hard-coated polycarbonate (like Nokia Lumias)
  • Internal hardware is "steel reinforced", which Apple says amplifies the antenna
  • Colors: Green, White, Light Blue, Light Red (Salmon?), and Yellow
  • Silicone rubber cases for the iPhone 5C as well
  • A6 chip, just like the iPhone 5, same 8MP camera as the iPhone 5, basically same internal hardware as iPhone 5
  • Slightly larger capacity battery than iPhone 5
  • Dual-band Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.0
  • $100 on contract (16GB), $200 on contract (32GB)
  • $550 unlocked (16GB), $650 unlocked (32GB)

iPhone 5S

  • Three colors: white, space-grey (slate), and yes, gold
  • 64-bit A7 chip, 1 billion transistors. Very technical for a product announcement
  • iOS 7 and Apple's apps reengineered for 64-bit.
  • Claims: A7 is twice as fast as A6 at CPU tasks, up to twice as fast for graphics.
  • OpenGL ES 3.0 (supported in Android 4.3 with selected hardware)
  • M7 chip, a "motion-coprocessor" that continuously measures motion data from accelerometer, gyroscope, and compass
  • Battery life: 10 hours 3G talk, 8 hours 3G browsing, 10 hours LTE browsing, 10 hours Wi-Fi browsing, 10 hours video playback, 40 hours music playback, 250 hours standby.
  • New camera system with 15% larger sensor, f/2.2 five-element lens.
  • 1.5 µ pixel size in new sensor (HTC One's UltraPixel sensor has 2.0 µ pixels, but still don't look great)
  • Dual-LED flash, one warm and one amber. Better scene evaluation for flash and white balance.
  • Auto-image stabilization. Burst mode: hold down shutter to take multiple photos (at 10fps) and combine them for sharpest one.
  • 120 frames per second 720p video recording for slow-motion videos. 4X slower than 30fps.
  • 28MP panorama, exposure adjusts as you pan.
  • Touch ID fingerprint sensor. Capacitive sensor on home button: 500 ppi resolution, 170 µ thin, 360 degree readability. Steel ring around home button is to detect finger. Fingerprint data never goes to iCloud or Apple's servers. Stays on phone.
  • Touch ID can also be used to make purchases in Apple's iOS stores.
  • New leather cases, $40 each.
  • Same pricing as iPhone 5 last year. Starts at $200 on contract for 16GB.

Pre-order for iPhone 5C starts Sept 13, shipping September 20.

iPhone 4S will still be available, free with two-year contract. has been updated with the new iPhones.

The full presentation is now online.