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Intel's Next-Gen CPU will Require New Motherboards

Intel is bringing some improvements with the new Sandy Bridge chips, but will consumers move to new sockets?

Some early details on Intel's next generation Sandy Bridge CPUs have made out into the wild, and there are some surprising details in the documents. The expected 2011 launch will certainly excite the enthusiasts, but some possible hardware changes will bring them right back down. Intel looks to be planning two new sockets for this purpose. Both versions of Sandy Bridge are going to see some nice improvements, but people may not be so eager to move to a new socket so soon. Let's take a look at the details, and see if it's worth it.

Like the current generation LGA1156 and LGA1366 platforms, the Sandy Bridge CPUs will be separated into two different markets. One will be consumer oriented, and one will be for enthusiasts (read: early adopters who can afford $1000 CPUs). All the CPUs will be based on a 32nm manufacturing process, with some enhancements unique to the next gen chips. They are expected to utilize Advanced Vector Extensions to greatly improve throughput of parallel computing tasks. Intel is also looking at implementing Advanced Encryption Standard Acceleration which would provide better performance in encrypting and decrypting data.

The consumer version of Sandy Bridge will take the place of the current Clarkdale and Lynnfield CPUs (the Core i3 and Core i5). However, these chips will use LGA1155 instead of Nehalem's 1156. Yes, there will be just one fewer pin, and by all accounts the sockets will not be compatible. To really drive the point home, Intel has also moved the position of the notch to ensure the chips will not physically fit. But it's not all bad news.

The LGA1155 chips will have support for Hyper Threading and Turbo Boost technology, and will come in dual and quad-core versions. The Intel docs don't mention clock speed, but that's probably because Intel itself isn't sure yet. This socket will be picking up one notable feature from higher-end LGA1366 platform. The LGA1155 parts will have integrated graphics, PCI Express controller and memory controller built into the core, instead of on a separate die. In LGA 1156 these were on a separate die, but added to the CPU package.

The replacement for 1366 is expected to be the LGA2011, which is sort of odd as it's debuting in mid-2011. These chips will be the Sandy Bridge E ('E' for enthusiast apparently). You can still expect Hyper Threading and Turbo Boost  technology. This socket is going to be much larger than the current 1366 in order to accommodate quad channel DDR3 RAM. You can bet the larger socket means these chips won't work on older boards. Also, you might need new RAM if you want the quad-channel support. There's also going to be support for PCI Express 3.0 at long last bringing 32 lanes of bandwidth. The platform will be able to split those lanes into either 2x16 or 4x8 configurations depending on the number of GPUs.

Intel has been dragging its feet a bit on implementing new technologies like SATA 6Gb/s and USB 3.0. This has led some manufacturers to put additional controller chips on their motherboards, or offer add-on  cards, that add the functionality. Both the Sandy Bridge platforms will support the new SATA standard, but there will NOT be USB 3.0 support. This leaves us a little confused and depressed.

Intel released the LGA1366 in late 2008 for the Core i7 launch, and here we are looking at a planned successor launching fairly soon. People that bought expensive 1366 boards have reason to be upset. These were, and still are, expensive boards. AMD has gone through the AM2, AM2+, and AM3 sockets in recent years, but have made their CPUs backwards compatible. That's something we'd have at least liked to see on the consumer oriented parts, especially considering the similarity of the LGA1156 and 1155 sockets.

The LGA 1156 didn't come out until even later than the LGA1366, as it was paired with the Lynnfield launch in September 2009. Consumers that purchased an LGA1156 motherboard can expect to have their setup obsoleted by the first quarter of 2011, or maybe even late 2010. So they are actively supported for maybe a year? It's interesting that Intel is moving ahead with a new architecture so soon. Before Nehalem, the reliable LGA 775 socket lasted all the way from Pentium 4 through Core 2 Quad. 
 
The upshot is that starting next year, no matter what board you have, Intel's new CPUs will not be available to you as drop-in upgrades. There's no way to know what the performance of Sandy Bridge will be like, but will it be good enough to get this bitter taste out of our mouths?

norman staff on April 21, 2010 at 5:41 p.m.
i'm really bummed that sandy bridge will not support x58 (if these unofficial details prove true), because intel really didn't give early adopters any real upgrade paths. gulftown is still really expensive, and for the large part, unnecessary. but i also don't think that sandy bridge will come anytime soon, seeing as IDF (intel's annual developer's forum in the fall) is coming up fast and there's no real competition from AMD to push intel into an early launch. mobile nehalem has also yet to really take off, so intel should be putting more of their marketing muscle and attention there, especially if the rumors that apple is considering amd for the next macbooks are true.
TooWalruson April 21, 2010 at 5:56 p.m.
I was thinking about buying/building a new PC early next year (because it'll probably take me that long to compile enough spare cash to drop on it). I'm stoked.
Cronaon April 21, 2010 at 7:34 p.m.
I'm kinda bummed for other people, because as far as I'm concerned, part of the appeal of building a high end desktop is being able to maintain a decent computer for a long time through upgrades. Cutting off upgrades is a dirty move. 
 
That being said, as someone who's been looking forward to building an extremely high end PC for some time now, seeing a new standard being put into place is exciting because it means I'm able to adopt early and not worry about rebuilding a new PC from the ground up for some time. 
 
Using some common sense and some knowledge of the business, what can we expect from the processors?
Skytylzon April 21, 2010 at 8:14 p.m.
BOOOOO!
JJWeathermanon April 21, 2010 at 9:41 p.m.
Wow, one less pin? This is garbage.
Finison April 21, 2010 at 9:56 p.m.
Damn, that is annoying and I was planning on making a new build this year, I wonder now if I should just wait new year for the new gen of mobos and CPU's
Jadeskyeon April 21, 2010 at 11:28 p.m.
@norman: Correct me if i'm wrong but i thought Sandy bridge wasn't supposed to be an X58 replacement. do you think they'll push the performance of these Sandys beyond current i7 levels?
gunslingeron April 22, 2010 at 12:18 a.m.
As a 1556 owner I'm really annoyed to hear about this. The first time I buy a desktop PC in years and a large portion of it is obsolete in under a year...
 
The one consolation though is that I wasn't going to even consider upgrading for at least a couple of years anyway so I guess I haven't really lost out.
Binman88on April 22, 2010 at 1:45 a.m.
It's a pity they'll cease releasing 1366 chips, sure, as I was somewhat of an i7 early adopter and bought an X58 board and i7 920 CPU around December 08/January 09. However, I think there's plenty of mileage left on the i7 920 yet, and can see myself sticking with the pair for a long time into 2011, if not longer. I figure it would have been just as expensive to upgrade the CPU to something that vastly out performs the 920 around that time (if Intel had hypothetically decided to stick with the X58 architecture), as it will be to upgrade to a new Sandy Bridge board and CPU. 
Floppypantson April 22, 2010 at 1:50 p.m.
News like this makes me want to get a different hobby
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