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Before spending more money on more lenses and kit/gear I think people need to familiarize themselves with their cameras and their technique before they start throwing cash around (no matter how little the amount).
When I first got into photography I was able to take shots that I still consider good photos despite being shot with the "crappy" kit lenses.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1367/1376956654_35bc5ec776_z.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1390/1376965760_2c1834873b_z.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1167/1376055643_8ca2ac9325_z.jpg
All taken with the kit 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 non-IS Canon lens.
Technique can make up for many failings the kit lenses have.
When I got my first DSLR (XSi) I tossed the kit lens (EF-S 18-55 blehk) that came with it and went to a EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS which, all things considered, wasn't a bad lens. Build was nice and the optics were good.
Right now I'm debating between the 85mm f/1.2 , 70-200mm f/2.8 II or a 24-70mm f/2.8. I could use more primes but that particular telephoto is sexy. The zoom would be a replacement for the 24-105mm that came as a part of the kit.
still off point, great article,
@stenchlord: Definitely agree here. I remember I counted out that lens when I first started shooting, but it produced some decent results that I still use in photosets and portfolios to this day. I've moved onto an L series lens as my general shooter, but I'll still bust out the 18-55mm every now and then, just because.
Great recommendations though, Will. First lens I picked up for my aging 30D was a 17-35mm f/2.8L. It's a strange lens, produced before the sharper 16-35mm, but far less expensive — and still better than Canon's mid-range 17-40mm. Using it on a crop body, it's obviously not as wide as I like, and chromatic aberration seems to be a common problem with a lot of the concert stuff I shoot, but I'm not too bothered with it over all. Been a great lens for the nearly four years I've owned it. I figure once I get a 16-35mm, I can relegate the 17-40mm to second-body duty.
The 16-35mm is really nice. It's probably been my oft used lens since I got it this year especially being to shoot it so wide & I shoot a lot of indoor scenes (with the little help of my Gary Fong).
Alot of people say the kit lens is not good enough for taking good/great pictures, but don't listen to them. Underestimating the kit lens is a bad idea.
Here's two pictures I've taken with the kit lens and they came out pretty good:
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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2696/4540975714_555faf787e_o.jpg
Depending on the crop factor it's going to be a minimum of 104 which is into telephoto/macro territory. There also the possibility of some heavy vignetting depending on the make.
And 10% nudity.
Indeed, a lot of it is getting familiar with the equipment you have. Those are some nice shots you have there stenchlord. I got a Nikon D80 with a stock 18-135mm AF-S DX and have been using that with pretty good results. Recently though I purchased my first lens, a Sigma 50mm Macro lens for the closeups that telephoto just can't get.
I just bought my first DSLR this weekend, and have been playing with it a bunch. Its a T2i with a 18-35mm kit. I don't necessarily want to be spending a lot of money, at least not yet. My father has an old SLR from Olympus (OM-1), with a 135mm prime lens (as well as a 50mm prime). I don't really know more about those lenses, but I know he spent a fair amount on them.
I found an adaptor for an OM -> Canon EOS for less then $100. What are your thoughts on using an adaptor for older lenses? If its a good quality lens, would one expect to get good shots, or are newer lenses far superior? The OM1 was produced in the 70's, so I expect the telephoto to be no newer then about 1985. I won't get the auto-focus, which may be a problem on the rebel without a focus view in the viewfinder...
I know about the 1.6x thing, due to the smaller sensor size versus the 35mm film size on "proper" SLR cameras. That would mean the 135mm would be equal to about 216mm. But would the quality be degraded? Worst case, that gives me two primes that I can use for less then $100... (actually, $25 for a cheapo adaptor, around $100 for a "pro" version).
And speaking about the 1.6x, if one were to get a Canon, non-EF-S lens, does that mean it would apply the 1.6x to it?
First off, the inexpensive zoom lenses packaged in some of these DSLR kits are hardly "mediocre" and offer a very good starting point for the vast majority of people wanting to get into the hobby. His advice to buy a 50mm lens instead might have been sound back in the 70's but not nowadays. For most people the versatility of a zoom is more valuable than a lens that has more light gathering ability. Another fact to take into consideration is the magnification factor that most DSLR's have, which turns that 'normal' 50mm lens from the film camera days into a slight telephoto lens. While this is and advantage if the person wants to shoot portraiture its not so great for shooting the obligatory family portrait in front of the fireplace or everyone sitting around the table at Christmas.
Most people starting out in photography don't know what they want to do, portraiture, landscape, sports, etc. This is the big advantage of starting out with a zoom lens, or two. A zoom gives you flexibility while you're learning what you want to do with this new hobby of yours.
My advice for most people is to decide if they can afford to go with the two lens kits, or perhaps buy more of an all-in-one design lens like an 18-200 zoom. An all-in-one design has its own short comings but more than makes up for them by being ready for anything. I'm sure most of you have missed a great shot from time to time because the perfect moment happened while you were changing lenses.
My other piece of advice is to invest in an external flash, preferably one with a bounce head. An external flash is one of the accessories to add to your kit that can make a huge improvement in your pictures. You needn't spend more than $100 for a decent flash (check out Metz's offerings).
Otherwise, buy a case that you can live with, one that with a little extra space for future purchases. Invest in a good quality tripod and pick up an inexpensive 3rd party wired or wireless remote. Check out what's available in photo software for your computer, often the OS comes with software for doing basic image retouching and there are lots of freeware titles available also. Pick up a good quality memory card and a card reader (optional but very useful).
Use the best tool for learning photography, the Internet. I wish I'd had its resources back in the late 60's when I first got interested in photography.
Finally, and this is probably the most important tip: Get out there and shoot!
I can get my hands on some old (and decidedly pricey) glass, but I have my heart set on a Canon, and the lens is a Pentax. I was looking at the adapter rings, and while it looks like not all of the features may carry over (AF being one of them I think), I'm curious to know if anyone here has had any experience with adapter rings.
Nevertheless, I remember the 18-55mm that came with my 450D was pretty decent in terms of sharpness and overall quality. And it came with built in stabilization, which was definitely welcome when I was starting off.
The kit lens which came with the 7D wasn't half bad either. Unfortunately, the more expensive the glass the better the quality, and I can honestly say that the 24-70 2.8 L is the best lens I have gotten yet.
The other thing that perhaps should have been mentioned is the crop factor aspect. Considering that most people starting off are going to get an APS-C sensor camera (1.6x), then they technically could get away with using a 50mm prime instead of going for a potentially more expensive 85mm equivalent, considering that the magnification provided will end up being (1.6 x 50) 80mm.