So I want to get a new iPad, was thinking of just getting the 16GB one cuz $499 is already alot to spend on something like this for me but after hearing how large the new apps are is 16GB enough?
Anyone with a 16GB new iPad care to weigh in?
I tend to not use a ton of apps it will mostly be fore playing a few games, web browsing, reading comics with the Comixology app.
With the new retina display, many of the apps that have appeared over the last week that have incorporated Retina support have quadrupled in size
The best games were already the biggest of the apps.... now having to include elements, bitmaps & textures at 4x the resolution, of course means a massive increase in app size... I would be at all surprised to see games start showing up well in access of a 2GB file size
16gb is big enough for anyone who primarily uses the device for web browsing and a handful of Apps. If you plan on renting movies and storing music, the space will feel inadequate.
I don't store anything on here but Apps (including some hefty games, ala Infinity Blade) and some Pages documents, and I've never even come close to filling 16 gigs.
On the new iPad I have Mass Effect: Infiltrator, Infinity Blade 2, Ghost Trick, Real Racing 2 HD, GarageBand, and a handful of others, and I've got 7.5gb free.
It was when apps weren't like 1-2 GBs, but yeah if you play a lot of games with it, you're gonna run out of space quickly. And obviously 16GBs doesn't hold a lot of music or movies.
I think it's less a question of PLAYING a lot of games, and more a question of STORING a lot of games. I tend to play 2-3 ipad games at a time, and delete those which I've completed. They can always be redownloaded, but you're relying on cloud saves if you want to keep the completion progress.
I think it's less a question of PLAYING a lot of games, and more a question of STORING a lot of games. I tend to play 2-3 ipad games at a time, and delete those which I've completed. They can always be redownloaded, but you're relying on cloud saves if you want to keep the completion progress.
So I should be alright then since I don't anticipate playing very many games on it at all?
I pretty much have my app ecosystem in place where there isn't anything I'd want to do that one of the couple pages of apps I have wouldn't accomplish the task and I have one or two of the bigger "retina" games (Infinity Blade II, etc.), I stream all of my music/video content, and any documents or extra things I don't need to access that often are stored in Dropbox. Currently have 9.9 GB free on my 16 GB 3rd gen. That being said you will probably go a bit crazy when you first get it and download ALL the free apps. I know I did when I first got my iPad 2. But you'll find that you don't need/use a lot of them and they are just wasting space. And anything you purchased can be re-downloaded later so it's no big deal if you delete it. In my opinion 16 GB is enough if you know how to work out of the cloud and don't get too greedy.
I only ordered the 16GB one. I have no intention of putting music or podcasts on it, I have an iPod Classic for that and I stream all my movies and videos. I think I'll be fine because I also usually only keep a few games on at a time unless they're small (I do that on my phone as well). I mainly play puzzle games, strategy and RPGs on touch screen devices so I shouldn't need too much space. I'm not getting any huge stuff like Infinity Blade, just Final Fantasy games which are under 200 MB, and games like Plants Vs. Zombies and Jetpack Joyride.
I pretty much have my app ecosystem in place where there isn't anything I'd want to do that one of the couple pages of apps I have wouldn't accomplish the task and I have one or two of the bigger "retina" games (Infinity Blade II, etc.), I stream all of my music/video content, and any documents or extra things I don't need to access that often are stored in Dropbox. Currently have 9.9 GB free on my 16 GB 3rd gen. That being said you will probably go a bit crazy when you first get it and download ALL the free apps. I know I did when I first got my iPad 2. But you'll find that you don't need/use a lot of them and they are just wasting space. And anything you purchased can be re-downloaded later so it's no big deal if you delete it. In my opinion 16 GB is enough if you know how to work out of the cloud and don't get too greedy.
Cool cool. I'm already in the App Ecosystem through my iPhone and I was planning on mostly relying on music & video in the cloud anyway (Spotify & Netflix FTW).
So I want to get a new iPad, was thinking of just getting the 16GB one cuz $499 is already alot to spend on something like this for me but after hearing how large the new apps are is 16GB enough?
Anyone with a 16GB new iPad care to weigh in?
I tend to not use a ton of apps it will mostly be fore playing a few games, web browsing, reading comics with the Comixology app.
16GB will be fine. Look towards the future, Apple is. Cloud storage means that owning large amounts of hard drive won't matter (at least not for the average user.) So you play a few games. Just be conciseness about what is "installed." I play lots of games on my phone (that I paid for) and I know if I want to play them again i just need to re-download them.
If you are getting a tablet for the first time, look at last years model. Last years model should be dropping in price.
This thread had me worried at first since I'm planning to buy a 16gb iPad 3 next month, so it's good to see that there are people who are comfortable with that. I initially thought I'd be okay since my iPad 1 with 32gb has never seen more than 20-25gb worth of stuff on it, and it's sitting right now with 8gb of audio on it right now that I never listen to and could easily take off, since I'd use my iPod on the go and could just do Home Sharing when at home.
Yeah, as long as you don't plan on keeping many videos (or a massive library of music) on there, you'll be fine.
That's not true at all, some games are 800MB alone, heck some are probably even more.
App size will increase further as they get the update to cater for the new screen. You can't opt to use an older version of the app either or just not use the higher res assets as the apps are universal across all the iPads. 16GB is a bad buy now.
So I want to get a new iPad, was thinking of just getting the 16GB one cuz $499 is already alot to spend on something like this for me but after hearing how large the new apps are is 16GB enough?
Anyone with a 16GB new iPad care to weigh in?
I tend to not use a ton of apps it will mostly be fore playing a few games, web browsing, reading comics with the Comixology app.
16GB will be fine. Look towards the future, Apple is. Cloud storage means that owning large amounts of hard drive won't matter (at least not for the average user.) So you play a few games. Just be conciseness about what is "installed." I play lots of games on my phone (that I paid for) and I know if I want to play them again i just need to re-download them.
If you are getting a tablet for the first time, look at last years model. Last years model should be dropping in price.
Cloud storage doesn't really lighten the load, apps are what is taking up space now, they're all going up in size by 10-30%.
If you don't play any 3D games or want any music on there locally then you'll probably be fine, otherwise it's not really a good idea to get the 16GB. Which actually translates to only 14GB of space you can use.
@mjdailey: The only reason to worry about apps and their storage file size for the iPad, it seems to me, is in regards to top-level games. If you plan to have GTA III, Infinity Blade 1 & 2, and a few other big-scale games loaded on the iPad at all times, then yeah, 16GB might seem small. Not to mention videos you might buy or load up into the device.
If you are only gonna be using the iPad for normal tasks and apps though, and not gaming, I wouldn't concern myself that much.
I don't plan on keeping videos or all my music on mine (spotify/pandora takes care of that), but expect 32gb to be the sweet spot I don't feel pressured to manage storage. Actually expect photos to take up most of the space. Eg. Already have 2GB of photos just from wondercon on my iPad now, tweaking in iPhoto. Dslr and MILC photos look soooooo good
With Plex I have access to all my home media and whatever else I stream from the Internet. If I know I'm going to be away from wifi I can cache stuff onto the device. Until they stop price gouging memory I am fine with 16gb.
So I want to get a new iPad, was thinking of just getting the 16GB one cuz $499 is already alot to spend on something like this for me but after hearing how large the new apps are is 16GB enough?
Anyone with a 16GB new iPad care to weigh in?
I tend to not use a ton of apps it will mostly be fore playing a few games, web browsing, reading comics with the Comixology app.
No a 16 GB iPad is not enough space. I suggest you keep saving up money and buy it when you have enough to buy the 32GB iPad. I know some people are impatient and want to get it right away; but trust me save your money and get the 32GB one, it is well worth the money.
It depends on what exactly you need it for really. I buy a ton of apps (for my iPhone4), but still went with the 16gb iPad 3. The reason being is that the extra re-sell value of a 32 compared to a 16 was bugger all. It's really a convenience thing. All apps can easily be redownloaded once deleted. But also you can simply transfer them to iTunes and sync them back onto your device at a later device. Memory for PCs costs nothing nowerdays. I'd say it's simply not worth the extra cost other than for convenience sake.
The re-sell of the 32GB 3rd gen iPad will be larger because the16GB isn't as attractive now that the apps have all started to increase in size because of the higher resolution. In a couple of months time I suspect they'll be some buyers remorse kicking in when a lot of apps & games have been updated to support 2048x1536 and/or the new quad core graphics.
The new iPad is going to be my first tablet I've had and I think I'm going with the 32gb one, even with the price bump. I've got a 64gb iPhone 4S and even with 10gb free space I'm starting to sweat that I'll run out of space eventually.
There's a couple of things that need to be considered:
1. It appears that most of the people who are happy with 16GB are iPad2 users - They are also compromising there usage of the tablet with app shuffling, and are unlikely to yet have experience of the future bigger app size
2. However much you believe you know already how you will use an iPad... you need to forget your preconceived ideas. In practice they turn out to be far more versatile than you imagine it will be, and you WILL end up using it in ways you didn't think you would.
3. The 16GB is the far less attractive model, and will devalue far quicker than the 32GB and above... especially as Apple always keep the 16GB in production for 2 years, and dramatically reduce the price of them in the second year upon release of the next generation product - I estimate the 16GB will be worth as little as 25% of it's original retail price after just 12 months... whereas the 32GB's and above maintain at least 50% of their value (if not more)
4. The general rule with buying these Apple products is estimate how much space you believe you need - Then go for the next model up in the range.... This way you will never suffer buyer remorse, and never start to feel caged in by limitations....
5. Furthermore, like any computer product, iPads do not like running with with full storage... they become unstable and start crashing a lot
My iPad 2 was a 16 Gig. I didn't use it for music, movies or podcasts and deleted apps when they were no longer being used. I ran out of space for the first time last week. What chewed up most of my space was newstand. I'm in Australia and it's much cheaper buying overseas magazines through Newsstand instead of locally. But they can be very big. Until I ran out of space I used to keep the last two issues of each magazine.
Of course the people who are saying 16GB is probably enough are speaking from their experience with the iPad 2. Would you really be interested in the opinions of someone who has only had the device for three days?
We can debate this in endless circles, but the simple answer here is that 16GB is plenty for many users, and insufficient for others. The device will continue to have a strong resale value regardless. Go with the model that your gut tells you will match your usage habits, and pull up data about the size of specific apps if you need to double-check your instincts.
1. and most people i know that are happy with a 16GB have more than 50% free. i can't see that space filling up.
2. i doubt that, its good to consume content and use some apps. if you don't plan to play on that i doubt simple apps magically will get to 500+Mb for some art assets
3. i doubt it if i look at the resell value of the 1. gen ipads/3gs with a shitty resolution ... or any value in the past for a 12month old apple product
4. the rule for every product is usually, check your what you need and buy that, if not your requirements management is just bad. that goes especially for apple product since the high resell value and crappy warranty (1year) usually mean you end up buying the next gen in a year instead of extending apple care for attractive price.
5. is that so ?
bottom line is, if you want to store media play on the thing consider at least the 32GB if you just consume/read on the ipad the 16GB will usually still be fine
pull up data about the size of specific apps if you need to double-check your instincts.
That's what I went and did yesterday. I'm not sure where this and idea of ops taking up fourteen gigs of space came from, but all the apps on my iPhone (And I aim to have significantly fewer on my iPad) take up around 8GB total, including 800MB worth of GTA3 and the application data (Read: Offline Mode Music) of Spotify. I went on the App store or iPad to check up the sizes of the Apps I'm most interested in using and there were all measured in the double digit megabytes - even the Retina iPad Ready ones. Now sure, Application Data will increase many of their total sizes once installed, but from looking into it I really don't anticipate 16GB being as stifling as its made out to be, especially since I don't mind ditching Apps I'm not making much use of to free up space, safe in the knowledge I can get them back later.
Heck, it sure beats managing memory on Android. My Android Tablet is a total nuisance when it comes to managing space for Apps.
So I want to get a new iPad, was thinking of just getting the 16GB one cuz $499 is already alot to spend on something like this for me but after hearing how large the new apps are is 16GB enough?
Anyone with a 16GB new iPad care to weigh in?
I tend to not use a ton of apps it will mostly be fore playing a few games, web browsing, reading comics with the Comixology app.
No 16GB is not big enough
With the new retina display, many of the apps that have appeared over the last week that have incorporated Retina support have quadrupled in size
The best games were already the biggest of the apps.... now having to include elements, bitmaps & textures at 4x the resolution, of course means a massive increase in app size... I would be at all surprised to see games start showing up well in access of a 2GB file size
EDIT: *I would NOT be at all surprised...
It was when apps weren't like 1-2 GBs, but yeah if you play a lot of games with it, you're gonna run out of space quickly. And obviously 16GBs doesn't hold a lot of music or movies.
@mark_uses_parentheses said:
So I should be alright then since I don't anticipate playing very many games on it at all?
I pretty much have my app ecosystem in place where there isn't anything I'd want to do that one of the couple pages of apps I have wouldn't accomplish the task and I have one or two of the bigger "retina" games (Infinity Blade II, etc.), I stream all of my music/video content, and any documents or extra things I don't need to access that often are stored in Dropbox. Currently have 9.9 GB free on my 16 GB 3rd gen. That being said you will probably go a bit crazy when you first get it and download ALL the free apps. I know I did when I first got my iPad 2. But you'll find that you don't need/use a lot of them and they are just wasting space. And anything you purchased can be re-downloaded later so it's no big deal if you delete it. In my opinion 16 GB is enough if you know how to work out of the cloud and don't get too greedy.
I only ordered the 16GB one. I have no intention of putting music or podcasts on it, I have an iPod Classic for that and I stream all my movies and videos. I think I'll be fine because I also usually only keep a few games on at a time unless they're small (I do that on my phone as well). I mainly play puzzle games, strategy and RPGs on touch screen devices so I shouldn't need too much space. I'm not getting any huge stuff like Infinity Blade, just Final Fantasy games which are under 200 MB, and games like Plants Vs. Zombies and Jetpack Joyride.
@th3irdeye said:
Cool cool. I'm already in the App Ecosystem through my iPhone and I was planning on mostly relying on music & video in the cloud anyway (Spotify & Netflix FTW).
@mark_uses_parentheses: Cheers.
@mjdailey said:
16GB will be fine. Look towards the future, Apple is. Cloud storage means that owning large amounts of hard drive won't matter (at least not for the average user.) So you play a few games. Just be conciseness about what is "installed." I play lots of games on my phone (that I paid for) and I know if I want to play them again i just need to re-download them.
If you are getting a tablet for the first time, look at last years model. Last years model should be dropping in price.
This thread had me worried at first since I'm planning to buy a 16gb iPad 3 next month, so it's good to see that there are people who are comfortable with that. I initially thought I'd be okay since my iPad 1 with 32gb has never seen more than 20-25gb worth of stuff on it, and it's sitting right now with 8gb of audio on it right now that I never listen to and could easily take off, since I'd use my iPod on the go and could just do Home Sharing when at home.
@mark_uses_parentheses said:
That's not true at all, some games are 800MB alone, heck some are probably even more.
App size will increase further as they get the update to cater for the new screen. You can't opt to use an older version of the app either or just not use the higher res assets as the apps are universal across all the iPads. 16GB is a bad buy now.
@happypup70 said:
Cloud storage doesn't really lighten the load, apps are what is taking up space now, they're all going up in size by 10-30%.
If you don't play any 3D games or want any music on there locally then you'll probably be fine, otherwise it's not really a good idea to get the 16GB. Which actually translates to only 14GB of space you can use.
@mjdailey: The only reason to worry about apps and their storage file size for the iPad, it seems to me, is in regards to top-level games. If you plan to have GTA III, Infinity Blade 1 & 2, and a few other big-scale games loaded on the iPad at all times, then yeah, 16GB might seem small. Not to mention videos you might buy or load up into the device.
If you are only gonna be using the iPad for normal tasks and apps though, and not gaming, I wouldn't concern myself that much.
@mjdailey said:
No a 16 GB iPad is not enough space. I suggest you keep saving up money and buy it when you have enough to buy the 32GB iPad. I know some people are impatient and want to get it right away; but trust me save your money and get the 32GB one, it is well worth the money.
It depends on what exactly you need it for really. I buy a ton of apps (for my iPhone4), but still went with the 16gb iPad 3. The reason being is that the extra re-sell value of a 32 compared to a 16 was bugger all. It's really a convenience thing. All apps can easily be redownloaded once deleted. But also you can simply transfer them to iTunes and sync them back onto your device at a later device. Memory for PCs costs nothing nowerdays. I'd say it's simply not worth the extra cost other than for convenience sake.
The re-sell of the 32GB 3rd gen iPad will be larger because the16GB isn't as attractive now that the apps have all started to increase in size because of the higher resolution. In a couple of months time I suspect they'll be some buyers remorse kicking in when a lot of apps & games have been updated to support 2048x1536 and/or the new quad core graphics.
Huh. Guess that there is a new bug.
The new iPad is going to be my first tablet I've had and I think I'm going with the 32gb one, even with the price bump. I've got a 64gb iPhone 4S and even with 10gb free space I'm starting to sweat that I'll run out of space eventually.
There's a couple of things that need to be considered:
1. It appears that most of the people who are happy with 16GB are iPad2 users - They are also compromising there usage of the tablet with app shuffling, and are unlikely to yet have experience of the future bigger app size
2. However much you believe you know already how you will use an iPad... you need to forget your preconceived ideas. In practice they turn out to be far more versatile than you imagine it will be, and you WILL end up using it in ways you didn't think you would.
3. The 16GB is the far less attractive model, and will devalue far quicker than the 32GB and above... especially as Apple always keep the 16GB in production for 2 years, and dramatically reduce the price of them in the second year upon release of the next generation product - I estimate the 16GB will be worth as little as 25% of it's original retail price after just 12 months... whereas the 32GB's and above maintain at least 50% of their value (if not more)
4. The general rule with buying these Apple products is estimate how much space you believe you need - Then go for the next model up in the range.... This way you will never suffer buyer remorse, and never start to feel caged in by limitations....
5. Furthermore, like any computer product, iPads do not like running with with full storage... they become unstable and start crashing a lot
My iPad 2 was a 16 Gig. I didn't use it for music, movies or podcasts and deleted apps when they were no longer being used. I ran out of space for the first time last week. What chewed up most of my space was newstand. I'm in Australia and it's much cheaper buying overseas magazines through Newsstand instead of locally. But they can be very big. Until I ran out of space I used to keep the last two issues of each magazine.
@defade: could not agree less
1. and most people i know that are happy with a 16GB have more than 50% free. i can't see that space filling up.
2. i doubt that, its good to consume content and use some apps. if you don't plan to play on that i doubt simple apps magically will get to 500+Mb for some art assets
3. i doubt it if i look at the resell value of the 1. gen ipads/3gs with a shitty resolution ... or any value in the past for a 12month old apple product
4. the rule for every product is usually, check your what you need and buy that, if not your requirements management is just bad. that goes especially for apple product since the high resell value and crappy warranty (1year) usually mean you end up buying the next gen in a year instead of extending apple care for attractive price.
5. is that so ?
bottom line is, if you want to store media play on the thing consider at least the 32GB if you just consume/read on the ipad the 16GB will usually still be fine
@mark_uses_parentheses said:
That's what I went and did yesterday. I'm not sure where this and idea of ops taking up fourteen gigs of space came from, but all the apps on my iPhone (And I aim to have significantly fewer on my iPad) take up around 8GB total, including 800MB worth of GTA3 and the application data (Read: Offline Mode Music) of Spotify. I went on the App store or iPad to check up the sizes of the Apps I'm most interested in using and there were all measured in the double digit megabytes - even the Retina iPad Ready ones. Now sure, Application Data will increase many of their total sizes once installed, but from looking into it I really don't anticipate 16GB being as stifling as its made out to be, especially since I don't mind ditching Apps I'm not making much use of to free up space, safe in the knowledge I can get them back later.
Heck, it sure beats managing memory on Android. My Android Tablet is a total nuisance when it comes to managing space for Apps.